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Old Dec 22, 2008, 07:35 AM // 07:35   #21
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Seems this one depends on where the snowmen at the end spawn, as to whether it's easy or hard.

If they spawn back at the wall, it's cake.

If they spawn out in the center, it's difficult. Problem here is new enemy groups that spawn insta-aggro, allowing no recoup time for snowmen (I lost twice, as all snowmen died and I tried running from the final pack/second to last pack). This can result in the indefinite death of boss snowman, given he got smoked.

Really not worth the grind - I calculate a 15-20k/hour return rate (2k/run, 6 min run). Any other mindless solo grind will net you about that much in vendor trash/salvage/golds/tomes - plus the holiday items should be 2-3x that much. I'm not real fond of pets, either - but sure wouldn't mind selling it if I found it...

EDIT: I thought I read on wiki that freezee stays dead until no enemies around, but not the case - I just ran to the door and waited it out on a new spawn that started in the center. Snowmen just keep respawning, and eventually win - takes longer, but can just AFK...

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Old Dec 22, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27   #22
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Lol, guys I know this sounds nooby, but im playing as ele and having trouble with grinch... i try to run past them but they pwn me and its always 2 vs 1 or 3 vs 1 and I always get my health knocked down to low. Anyways to kill them/run past them better?

btw i see no youtube videos bout it either


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I find it better to kill em all, works for me since I am getting trying to get as many CC Shards as possible. You may want to switch to a different profession. Monk is probably the easy choice since you get the additional heal and while the heal is running if you get hit the shooter is knocked down. If you get into a 3vs1/2vs1 put up ice castle and kill em, if that fails run like hell (zig-zag) and be ready to snowcone. Then heal & load up hidden rock and try to isolate them in a one on one situation. Knock down is your best buddy.

If you are going for shortest time to the end then warrior with lets get em is the way to go. Once a enemy snowball is in the air, turn sharply it should miss you.

I think someone already mentioned monk and warrior previously as the better choices.

I have noticed that some of boost items (pumpkin cookies/candy apples) put the icon on the screen but do not change any stats. Have not tried the cupcake to see if you get a speed boost. Test them to make sure otherwise it may be a huge waste. I could be wrong though, I will check later again later today unless someone beats me to it.

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Old Dec 22, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55   #23
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Is there any safe spot i could AFK in for the last fight? I usually go to the Left passage (If looking from the path you used to get to Freezie) if 2 waves have spawned there. However there's an additional wave coming from there after a couple of minutes, so I can't go completely afk.

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Old Dec 22, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02   #24
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Yes you can stand at the door near the corner.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25   #25
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What I do is run past the mobs while they're fighting and kill the single grentches.
Use Hidden Stone to knock them down, spam snowballs and dodge their attacks if you can.
In the final battle stay near the doors where the chest spawns.
Engage grentches that aren't targeted by the snowmen.
If the snowmen die, disengage from battle, hug the door and wait till they resurrect. If you get overwhelmed and all snowmen are dead, put up your defense and use snow cone if your health is low.
Rinse and repeat.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #26
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I usually kill all the grentches along the way for CC shards. One on one, preload Hidden Rock, Snowball, strafe, Snowball, strafe until Mega Snowball charged or grentch dead. One on two, preload Hidden Rock, Snowball, Ice Fort, repeat Snowball until first grentch dead, Mega Snowball, strafe, Snowball, you get the idea.

In the final fight, I prefer ritualist. Pop a Jack Frost to bear the initial attack from one side, tank on the other until the snowmen have dispatched the first mob, then lead the second group to the snowmen (keep strafing to avoid damage, the grentches usually keep aggro on you while the snowmen kill them). If you get dazed or Snow Down the Shirt, strafe until safe. Repeat for each wave. You should at any time have the full aggro of one mob on you to avoid the snowmen getting wiped and the completion of the mission pushing past 10 minutes.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18   #27
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Yes you can stand at the door near the corner.
Yes, I shove myself right up against the door when I notice my snowmen friends are getting overwhelmed. Just make sure you make a break before the last snowman is down, so you don't take the aggro.

Waiting out the fight takes a while tho. I only break from the fight if the snowmen are overwhelmed just before the final group (with Grentchus Maximus), and find they take quite a long time to wear the grentches down, as the grentches pounce on any poor Snowman soul who pops up.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21   #28
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My advice is to just to up to the door at the start... the snow men respawn and it might take 10 minutes, but its a lot easier and you can just chill in the meanwhile.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #29
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I often must retreat to the door at the beginning of the third wave. The third wave comes too fast.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59   #30
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The door behind the snowmen? I have tried this and I still got caught in the aggro with the boss mob. So I am confused as to how people are afking the final fight.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09   #31
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The door behind the snowmen? I have tried this and I still got caught in the aggro with the boss mob. So I am confused as to how people are afking the final fight.
Were you fighting near it before that? As long as you never drag anything back there they definitely won't aggro if you're just standing back there.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40   #32
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Yes, before the final snowman goes down, retreat.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53   #33
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No I was doing no fighting, but on all 3 occassions the snowmen were standing very near the door, so any gritches using touch skills definately came into my aggro bubble, causing the problem I described. It isn't a problem to fight them till the snowmen res, but an annoyance because it would be nice to go do the dishes if the snowmen can do all the fighting
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 02:09 AM // 02:09   #34
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AFK the fight at the end takes too much time, fighting is the way to go.

First wave: the grentch you left behind while running there will slow down the left side, take care of the right first.

Second wave: hold down the right side with Ice fort while the snowmen take care of the left.

Third and fourth wave: Fight both sides at the same time, when all the snowmen are dead use Ice fort (recharges when Freezie dies), few snowmen should respawn and get back the agro, if not: run back, dodge and eat your snowcone.

Fifth wave is easy.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #35
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I usually kill all the grentches along the way for CC shards. One on one, preload Hidden Rock, Snowball, strafe, Snowball, strafe until Mega Snowball charged or grentch dead. One on two, preload Hidden Rock, Snowball, Ice Fort, repeat Snowball until first grentch dead, Mega Snowball, strafe, Snowball, you get the idea.

In the final fight, I prefer ritualist. Pop a Jack Frost to bear the initial attack from one side, tank on the other until the snowmen have dispatched the first mob, then lead the second group to the snowmen (keep strafing to avoid damage, the grentches usually keep aggro on you while the snowmen kill them). If you get dazed or Snow Down the Shirt, strafe until safe. Repeat for each wave. You should at any time have the full aggro of one mob on you to avoid the snowmen getting wiped and the completion of the mission pushing past 10 minutes.
That is *exactly* how I've been doing it. Odd.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17   #36
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Cupcakes do make you run faster I'm up to 167 runs now (yeah i have no life)
I just run past everything to the door and always stand on the left side of the door (facing it) and have never taken agro
from grenchies in all these runs after they all get killed and the chest spawns i run back and kill any grenchies standing and collect any shards then go backopen the chest.
a bit slower but thats how i do it.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53   #37
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Could someone please post a link to a youtube vid for the easy way of running this?

I tried searching but could not find any and I need to show a guildie how to do this. ><
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20   #38
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Cupcakes do make you run faster I'm up to 167 runs now (yeah i have no life)
I just run past everything to the door and always stand on the left side of the door (facing it) and have never taken agro
from grenchies in all these runs after they all get killed and the chest spawns i run back and kill any grenchies standing and collect any shards then go backopen the chest.
a bit slower but thats how i do it.

Also verified the cupcake speed increase last night. You do not get the hit point or energy boost though. Another thing I used was slices of pumkin pie which looked like it was giving me the faster activation times on the skills but not the attack speed. Hard to tell for me when fighting. Useful if you are fighting your way to the end. Once again I need another set of eyes on that.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54   #39
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Could someone please post a link to a youtube vid for the easy way of running this?

I tried searching but could not find any and I need to show a guildie how to do this. ><
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eLmOjj_ux9g

there, 6 minute run. Pretty straightforward, run, heal, run some more, pew pew pew.
Almost managed to keep Freezie alive through the whole thing, died at the last group.
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Old Dec 23, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #40
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Guy wanted help, not a bunch of faggots. Either help him or don't post, no one really gives a shit if you find it easy.
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Wow, you people are so freakin sad. This guy is asking for advice, he isn't whining, and all you can do is flame?

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These...Dont be assholes the OP is simply asking for advice give it to him or stfu.

OT. Like others said just run in a zigzag motion. As soon as I get in I preload Hidden rock then run past all mobs until I get to the singles and I kill them if they are Icy Grenchies other wise I avalanche them then run by.
Then once at the end I go stand by the door let the guys do al the work while I read a bunch of post from all the asses on GwG.
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